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Tanya Jones and Todd Huffman - "Cryonics: Your Questions Answered"
Date and Time: Friday, November 09, 2007 from 4:00pm until 6:00pm MST
Location: Tubac Room, 4th Floor, Student Union Memorial Center, 1303 E. University Blvd., Tucson, AZ, USA 85721-0017 | Google Maps
Description: "Cryonics: Your Questions Answered" - After covering the basics during the previous meeting, we welcome Alcor's Chief Operating Officer and cryonics expert Tanya Jones during our first hour.
During the second hour, we welcome back Todd Huffman, who last presented to h+ on March 23, 2007. Todd Huffman is a transhumanist, brain imaging and neuroscience researcher, and cryonics expert, among other talents. He has been featured in [WARNING: blood] Body Modification Magazine.
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There were no presentations for this meeting. The format was questions and answers, based on the questions asked by club member on the forum and now included in the comments below.
Meeting Notes
Uploading vs. biological
Dying
- surface cooling integral
- may die suddenly
- medical field looking how to cool bodies
- cooling used in the battlefront
- aggressive cooling
Alcor based on CCR
- attempts to quickly stall damage
Three forms of death
- heart stops
- electrical brain damage
- legal death
Warm up brain to repair
- needs scanning technologies
Revival
- needs ideal stabilization
Examples
- helicopter crashes in Alaska
- suicide by gunshot to head
- moved near Alcor, full staff at bedside
Individuals going to Alcor, on average, live 8 years younger than normal
Worldwide
- stabilization kits placed worldwide
- looking for better tech, stabilization is very important
- needs field vitrification
- dry shipping problem (using nitrogen)
Fracturing event
- -119* C events start
- -135* C needed for preservation
- -196* C major, irrecoverable events
How much information must be preserved?
- structural damage in minutes
- destruction of mere dendrite spines not enough to destroy information
Frogs
- when winter comes, they develop glycerol
- frogs remove glycerol when warmed up
Alzheimer's
- structure of brain is retained
Death certificates required for every patient
People sometimes miss cryo-preservation
Legality
- illegal in a city in Colorado (frozen man with dry ice)
- flat out illegal in France
Feasibility
- Is structure of neurons preserved?
- brain uses lots of energy
- maintain memories
- structure, function, encoding at molecular level all preserved
Buying people back: values?
- historical value
- society at large may not care, but we will!
Companies
- Alcor wants reversible cryonics today
- Suspended Animation has 2 or 3 cases
- CI
Alcor
- most patients are whole bodies 4:1