Tanya Jones and Todd Huffman - “Cryonics: Your Questions Answered”

Wednesday, October 24th, 2007

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Tanya Jones and Todd Huffman - "Cryonics: Your Questions Answered"

Date and Time: Friday, November 09, 2007 from 4:00pm until 6:00pm MST

Location: Tubac Room, 4th Floor, Student Union Memorial Center, 1303 E. University Blvd., Tucson, AZ, USA 85721-0017 | Google Maps

Description: "Cryonics: Your Questions Answered" - After covering the basics during the previous meeting, we welcome Alcor's Chief Operating Officer and cryonics expert Tanya Jones during our first hour.

During the second hour, we welcome back Todd Huffman, who last presented to h+ on March 23, 2007. Todd Huffman is a transhumanist, brain imaging and neuroscience researcher, and cryonics expert, among other talents. He has been featured in [WARNING: blood] Body Modification Magazine.

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Presentations

There were no presentations for this meeting. The format was questions and answers, based on the questions asked by club member on the forum and now included in the comments below.

Meeting Notes

Uploading vs. biological

Dying
- surface cooling integral
- may die suddenly
- medical field looking how to cool bodies
- cooling used in the battlefront
- aggressive cooling

Alcor based on CCR
- attempts to quickly stall damage

Three forms of death
- heart stops
- electrical brain damage
- legal death

Warm up brain to repair
- needs scanning technologies

Revival
- needs ideal stabilization

Examples
- helicopter crashes in Alaska
- suicide by gunshot to head
- moved near Alcor, full staff at bedside

Individuals going to Alcor, on average, live 8 years younger than normal

Worldwide
- stabilization kits placed worldwide
- looking for better tech, stabilization is very important
- needs field vitrification
- dry shipping problem (using nitrogen)

Fracturing event
- -119* C events start
- -135* C needed for preservation
- -196* C major, irrecoverable events

How much information must be preserved?
- structural damage in minutes
- destruction of mere dendrite spines not enough to destroy information

Frogs
- when winter comes, they develop glycerol
- frogs remove glycerol when warmed up

Alzheimer's
- structure of brain is retained

Death certificates required for every patient

People sometimes miss cryo-preservation

Legality
- illegal in a city in Colorado (frozen man with dry ice)
- flat out illegal in France

Feasibility
- Is structure of neurons preserved?
- brain uses lots of energy
- maintain memories
- structure, function, encoding at molecular level all preserved

Buying people back: values?
- historical value
- society at large may not care, but we will!

Companies
- Alcor wants reversible cryonics today
- Suspended Animation has 2 or 3 cases
- CI

Alcor
- most patients are whole bodies 4:1

“Cryonics: Freak Freeze?”

Wednesday, October 24th, 2007

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"Cryonics: Freak Freeze?"

Date and Time: Friday, November 02, 2007 from 4:00pm until 6:00pm MST

Location: Tubac Room, 4th Floor, Student Union Memorial Center, 1303 E. University Blvd., Tucson, AZ, USA 85721-0017 | Google Maps

Description: "Cryonics: Freak Freeze?" - No, it is not, but there remains poor mainstream understanding of cryonics and its potential and obstacles. We will cover the basics of cryogenics and cryonics, available services, and related topics, in preparation for next week's guest speakers.

Presentations

Meeting Notes

Freezing - a liquid is frozen
Vitrification - conversion to glassy substance

Companies
- Alcor Life Extension
- American Cryonics Society
- Cryonics Institute

Revival of an animal "event of the millennium"
What happens concerning other bodily fluids?

Stabilize > Transport > Preserve > Store
- 77 people currently stored

Why hasn't it caught on?
- lacking demonstration
- gruesome
- needs medical backing by doctors
- needs better marketing

Cryonics
- reactions slow down significantly
- time basically stops, "time travel"
- key focus is to preserve people
- revival
- what will the economy be like in the future?
- What is the ethics of a super-intelligence?
- Might we become a third-world frozen society?
- Will the human race be a hive mind?
- What is value?
- Should we work on projects that wont happen for centuries?
- We need an entire mechanistic view of the brain

Lasers used to destroy blood-borne diseases

Movie Night: Alcor’s “The Limitless Future” and the Immortality Institute’s “Exploring Life Extension”

Friday, November 3rd, 2006

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Movie Night: Alcor's "The Limitless Future" and the Immortality Institute's "Exploring Life Extension"

Date and Time: Friday, November 03, 2006 at 6:00pm

Location: Richard's apartment

Description: Come watch and discuss Alcor's The Limitless Future, about cryonics, and the Immortality Institute's Exploring Life Extension: Interviews with more than 50 scientists and futurists written and directed by Bruce Klein, co-founder of the Immortality Institute and President of Novamente LLC.